Wednesday, July 28, 2010

On legitimacy, authority, and sovereignity.


Legitimacy.
We took a long time in trying to understand the real meaning of legitimacy. We’ve actually even need to open the dictionary ‘Collins Cobuild’ to look out its meaning.
‘Legitimacy’  (nouns) : something is acceptable according to the law.
Digging more into every ways to gain legitimacy, seems like government shall not lived by approval from the citizens itself. What sort of government that don’t have any support from its citizens? Government, albeit its corruption or any conflicts that exist in Malaysia, shall ever not live – without the concerns by the citizens itself – that is us. 

My respond:
Why don't the government shall not lived by approval from the citizens itself? What about the government that come into power through coup de tat? They don't necessarily need to seek approval from people, but force people to accept them. For Malaysian government case, I think to pick the lesser between two evils is more appropriate =p

Take one example, government, without enough resources, just say it money, shall having a problem in managing one community or peoples. Go far away from this, then you’ll realize that human only needs what have been stated in Maslow’s hierarchy ( foods, habitat, sex, and etc. ). Approval. Approval right? Well, just in case we do not want Malaysian government shall be called as regime. This country, democracy and liberty are filled into it, in avoidance to become dictatorial leadership.

Err .. .what this has to do with legitimacy? And, I think, in the name of legitimacy, then the government did what they do ... the people? With the apathetic attitudes? Blerghhh ... gimme a break!
Ironically, take a deep look around you, and you will realize that people does not want the good government in this country, they only want the government that can provide them with a good place, good food, and yeah, good fat money on their pockets. They don’t care about the integrity, they don’t care about the policy, they’re just care about their money. Bad society will produce a bad leader. Changing our attitudes is not late yet. Trust us my friends. ;)

Uuuu .. such a strong words you used. How would you spell the integrity of government? And, "Bad society will produce a bad leader" is another implied confession? Irony? I'd say that. 

Authority.
At first we actually think that we’ve grasp the definition of authority, but then again – when it comes to chapter 2, based on Roskin’s quote ,
“ Authority is an individual’s ability to gain respect or loyalty from people.”
How can we understand that when we already learn that the concept of respect or loyalty is actually related to INFLUENCE ?
Taking too seriously we think, on that definition – somehow we need to realize that there is always, always the meaning of these three things, ( power, authority, influence ) shall interchangeably used.
This remind us, about the simple example to describe. Take an armed robber, a teacher and a businessman.  Respectively, in this case, you shall quickly realize that armed robber is the symbol of real power, the teacher is the symbol of authority and thus, businessman, is to the influence. When you are being robbed, like it or not – they are the one who have a greater force or coercion upon you, shall have the real power. Differs to the idea of authority, authority deals with law enforcement. Legally generated. Legally enforced. Legally executed. It’s all about playing with law and policies. So what about businessman ? Well, after all, businessman cannot force you to buy his product right ? Nor they don’t have any law with them that states that it is compulsory to us to buy his product right ? So what they actually trying to do,  is, indirectly, persuading you to buy it. Owh yes, persuasive way. That’s what we call influence. But don’t limit this three terms into this concept only. Real power doesn’t mean that it only about force and coercion. Generally, when it comes to ‘power’, its subset is only real power, authority, and influence. Aih… just don’t care too much about the definition, pays more to the pragmatic things in this political science. We don’t bother theories too much, what we need is just a practical way to solve any issues related to this human matter.
Yeah ... different people have different opinions ... so does the definition. But, to play safe, just stick to those definitions given, OK?

Sovereignity.
Talk about sovereignity, we still on confusion of supreme power versus constitutional monarchy. Lets say that there is a king, whom have unlimited power – now that’s what we call the supreme power. We don’t call it as supreme if it is limited and the king cannot doing anything freely don’t we?
Thinking again - and just listened to what our lecturer have said, “We call it supreme because based on the historical data.”
*then she pointed out once upon a time about the king that slash the woman stomach that had eaten the a piece of a jackfruit without his permission*,
the king always has the unlimited power. Supreme because in this historical context. That’s all. Historical terms limit.
After all, this is just – simply a view of some novice. Don’t take these too seriously, otherwise, you might be confused. Will you?  ;)


 "Just because you do not take an interest in politics, doesn’t mean politics won’t take an interest in you." ~ Pericles (430 BC)

[ el ferdowsi ( Firdaus ), Pian Yank, Bunny, Fatin Liyana, pizah, Liza Kecik, Mama of 6B ]

8 comments:

  1. i dont trust wit yall... for me, Malaysian huv choose the right gov.. they giv us money or wealth or somethngelse bcos we they hav the good economic plans.... how they gain the money to giv us????? of coursely wit the strategic economic plans and how they manage the sources.... if they juz giv us evrythg unlimit, im sure that we gonna b like indonesia.... still hav peoples dont hav enough food... y they bcme like this???? hear me.... the president of Indonesia hav spnd too much while the election,, so he or she hav the voted based on how much the giving.... the impact, they dont huv enough money to manage the country... compare to our politic,,, as ex, kuala terengganu small election... even the gov huv spend a trilion( myb quad or fiflion, hahaha) for develop the state, voters still select the opposition as their choice in kuala terengganu.. y it's happened???? bcos malaysian hav a good thinking.... we choose based on charismatics not juz what the gov can giv for us??????(except u) hahahahahahaah...... AM I RIGHT??????????

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  2. @ amd1pb-july2010 :

    aiyaa... what sort of msg like dat ? can't grasp it so good lah.. = P

    "if they juz giv us evrythg unlimit, im sure that we gonna b like indonesia...."

    r u kiddin' me ? since when indonesian government give their citizen everything ?

    Now i know that indonesia does not in favor enough in having special act ( ISA in Malaysia & patriot act in America ) but then again - u go through everything on indonesian history, u'll realize that they are so much better than us malaysian.

    Revolution, take Munir and Iwan Fals as example, if those indonesian are in malaysia, well i think our police officer just might have to kill it. Same thing happens to munir. Go find out about short film 'kiri hijau kanan merah'. I'm sure it will help you a lot.

    Survival of the fittest - natural selection. Only the strong shall live. If we, Malaysian, are goin just like now for a long period of time, well I'm very sure that we shall collapse.

    Kita terlalu lemah. ;)

    ( pandangan peribadi firdaus )

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  3. Dear Mr AM1DPB :
    What did I say about SMS lingo? I don't appreciate that no matter how good your point are. Be careful as this might cost you marks.

    Bahasa menunjukkan bangsa ... even English is not our own mother tongue!

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  4. @ miss fisha : as a reply to this
    || Why don't the government shall not lived by approval from the citizens itself? What about the government that come into power through coup de tat? They don't necessarily need to seek approval from people, but force people to accept them. For Malaysian government case, I think to pick the lesser between two evils is more appropriate =p ||

    well, as we know already, government governs people. Seeking approval from your people is not an option, it is a must.

    Ok, on coup de tat - i don't know which one is what u really wanna mention - whether Breakthrough, Guardian ( musical chairs ) cdt, or Veto cdt. But if it is related to paramilitary/military force, then I'm so sure that not all the citizens are happy with that, even it is crucial.

    Forcing people to accept new government is just another barbaric mindless dictatorial leadership. Civilized people don't threat each other, we sue each other. ;)

    || For Malaysian government case, I think to pick the lesser between two evils is more appropriate =p ||

    For me, personally i'll not choose. I do not want to vote. Just in case when they go wrong, i can criticizing them. ;)

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  5. El Ferdowsi said:
    For me, personally i'll not choose. I do not want to vote. Just in case when they go wrong, i can criticizing them. ;)

    -- If you don't vote, you don't have rights to criticize. Shame on you in advance if you have such thought!

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  6. @ miss fisha : as reply to this

    || If you don't vote, you don't have rights to criticize ||

    Analogy :
    let's say Pak Ali become one of the candidate in the election,
    and we want Pak Ali to win the election so badly,
    we would do anything, anything for him to win, we love all Pak Ali's manifesto, we love to hear the speech from Pak Ali, Wo love Pak Ali lobbying over us.

    And then fate is with Pak Ali and us, Pak Ali and us win. So Pak Ali wins our heart, and of course he wins the election too.

    So if, if, if and only if Pak Ali gone wild and go wrong after that, you think it is not our fault ? Choosing the wrong people - you'd say lesser evil, I would think that as a despair.

    If we criticize what have we choose - then the only thing that I can see is just we criticize our own doing, criticizing our own fault, criticizing our own faith in Pak Ali. Criticizing our own wrong doing.

    My bad ;(

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  7. why your thinking is so deeply and sometime it's over the head????.... smetime we also need to criticize our own... its make us be more better... if we feel that we are totally right, be as jewish.. "no human except them"
    How can you think that pak ali will going bad for us...??? just admit your fault...

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  8. @ amd1pb-july2010 : as a reply to this

    ||why your thinking is so deeply and sometime it's over the head????||

    If you can't deal with it for a moment, just take a time okay. ;)

    || smetime we also need to criticize our own... its make us be more better... if we feel that we are totally right, be as jewish.. "no human except them ||

    seriously, I agree with that - but actually what I am trying to say is if we want to criticize Pak Ali, send our words to ourselves first ! How dare when we criticizing Pak Ali, when after all it is caused by us also. We do the wrong thing which means choosing the wrong people, then we blame Pak Ali right ? What an egoist. BETTER NOT CHOOSING HIM IN THE FIRST PLACE. Get what I mean ?

    And this is has nothing to do with jewish or any semitic whatsoever you racist. Jewish, christian, muslim are just has nothing to do with our context. = P

    ||How can you think that pak ali will going bad for us...??? just admit your fault... ||

    Admit my fault ? Woohoohoo~~
    You're the one who deviating in my context - and you've said that i have to admit it is my fault ? That's so childish my dear friend.

    Read history, and show me which one is the 'holiest' government ever. Can you ?

    If corruption in everywhere in this world does not exist - then you can blame my doubt. Come on, blame me. ;)

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